@ Laika- Yes, like prophecy for the Watchtower, sometimes the actual fulfillment of a prophecy is not understood until AFTER the events unfold. That is the way it usually works, "I always thought there was something strange...." "You know, I remember something they said once..." Blah, blah, blah, BLEGH, WRETCH!
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Were People Surprised When You Left The Witnesses?
by minimus inmine was a gradual going away.
but once it dawned on them, i think people were shocked that i left the religion i espoused from youth.. were people "in the truth" and "in the world" surprised by your departure?.
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Jehovah's Witness juror - The actions of this juror are a complete disgrace, said Prince Georges County States Attorney Angela Alsobrooks.
by Sol Reform inhttp://www.csnwashington.com/article/juror-email-leads-mistrial.
juror email leads to mistrial.
that juror now faces a possible contempt of court charge.the trial of a man involved in a high speed crash that killed a prince george's county police officer last year ended in a mistrial.. one of the jurors told the judge via email thursday morning that judging others was a violation of her religion as a jehovah's witness, news4's prince george's county bureau chief tracee wilkins reported.. kevon darnell neal, 23, was charged with vehicular manslaughter and fleeing and eluding following the death of officer adrian morris, 23.. morris and his partner were pursuing a stolen silver acura when their cruiser ran off interstate 95 near the powder mill road exit in august 2012. morris died after being ejected from the vehicle.
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You have to keep up with Jehovah's chariot....and the significance of the phrase- "a mature christian when presented with...."
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The Christian Hope--Is it in Heaven or on Earth?
by DS211 inso is the christian hope in heaven or on earth?.
in acts chapter 1the question was raised: 6 so when they had assembled, they asked him: lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?
7 he said to them: it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.. notice jesus never said thered be a change in venue, just that it wasnt up to them to know when..... so what is there from both sides?
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Oh, sorry, after the faithful are saved and receive their heavenly reward...what happens then is anyone's guess...Back to earth? Why not? If you believe this type of thing, anything is possible.
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The Christian Hope--Is it in Heaven or on Earth?
by DS211 inso is the christian hope in heaven or on earth?.
in acts chapter 1the question was raised: 6 so when they had assembled, they asked him: lord, are you restoring the kingdom to israel at this time?
7 he said to them: it does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the father has placed in his own jurisdiction.. notice jesus never said thered be a change in venue, just that it wasnt up to them to know when..... so what is there from both sides?
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"christian" = "heaven" There is no other ultimate reward for a Christian according to the New Testament.
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Jesus' Teachings - Helpful or Harmful?
by jgnat inspinning off from another thread, have jesus' teachings been less than universally helpful to mankind?
how do we measure if a particular philosophy is helpful or harmful?.
i am going to use the "universal morals" listed here.
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The sayings of Jesus are just another thread in the tapestry of spiritualist thinkers. The ideals he espoused are universal. They are strikingly similar to the Buddha in many respects and this is to be expected in that the teachings of the Buddha were well known during the time of Jesus. What has endangered his teachings is the manner in which others have manipulated and adulterated the core of his teachings. Nothing that is actually attributed to Jesus appears hurtful of harmful in any way. Taken out of context, they become devoid of spirituality and become propagandalist fodder!
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Head of the House?
by cofty ini often see comments by ex-jws that would suggest some men still view themselves as "head of the house".
sometimes comments from women appear to support the idea as well.. how many still see things this way or have you completely got over it?.
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I am only "head of the house" on my taxes. Our household operates under the precepts of an Anarcho-Syndicalist commune.
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A message from Brother Russell
by donny ini was having an anointed moment last night when brother russell came to me in a dream.
he was quite disturbed and agitated.. he said "brother reed, what in the miracle wheat eating jellyfish is going on with the organization i set up?
the more of my beloved watchtower that i read the more they marginalize my dead ass.".
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Cool, he visited me in a dream once too. He wanted to sell me some furniture.
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Will this Memorial be our last?
by pixel inthey just put up the march km 2014 on the private website.
most of it is same-old-same-old, with info here and there about the memorial.. somebody here might post the march km for all to see, i wont.. i just wanted to share the paragraph from page 2 q&a anticle: will you seize the opportunity?
upcoming memorial enables us to show gratitude .
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Answer: No it will not be our last. Oh, excuse me, "the" last.
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Not surprising. I expect that it will go up every year from here on out. It is my opinion that the numbers will increase as DO's CO's and others see that the majority of the current GB are younger than many of them and the ONLY reason THEY have not become GB is because of the Great Crowd status. Easily fixed, have a drink and a bite of bread...you're in the mix! Then, just wait for a few years while some of the older GB die off and the opportunity will present itself.
Others, too, see these young GB members and figure, "why not?"
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"Jehovah ALWAYS had/used an organization". How would you reply?
by EdenOne inin a recent meeting with elders, an argument was used to the effect that jehovah has always [= throughout history] used, or operated through, an organization; therefore, the wts must be that organization today, since god must be using one.
naturally, i know what arguments i've used to counter that argument.
but i'm interested in hearing yours.
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My response:
"Yes, that it true. I have always believed that Jehovah had an organization, some group of people that were organized to represent his interests here on earth. In fact, THAT is one of the reasons that got me to realize that the current organization is no longer God's channel, if in fact, it ever was."
"What do you mean by that?" the reply.
"Well, although the organization didn't teach an apostolic succession like the Catholics and Mormons do, they did teach that when Jesus founded the Christian congregation that he told his apostles, Peter in particular, that even the "gates of Hades would not overpower" what he established on the earth. So, when he died, the apostles carried on the work and even when they died, as the Society used to say, "there was always a small group of faithful anointed" entrusted with carrying on."
"Yes, that's right. That's what we've always believed." the emphatic reply.
"You mean, that is what the organization USED to teach. Now, the organization's position is that after the death of the last apostle, the apostacy rapidly wiped out pretty much all vestige of the Christian congregation, Jehovah's organization. It was left nearly destitute of any true and verifiable anointed follower up until 1918-1919, when the "faithful slave" came to exist. So, essentially the belief now is that Christ's congregation, what he established so that "even the gates of Hades" couldn't overpower it was wiped out with a simplistic article that placed the modern day Governing Body from Rutherford to now in a position greater than any of those faithful Christian who were martyred, those titans of language and earnest study that made the Bible accessible to the common man, much to their own peril. THOSE people are not VERIFIABLE anointed, so they don't matter and thus, there was no organization of people to look after the interests of God on Earth for those 2000 years."
"OK, I didn't know that." quizzical response.
"You should probably look it up."
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